As many of you know, we spend a lot of time on this Forum answering questions about conspiracies. Without trying to draw fanatics into the Forum, I do think that those interested in the Craft have a right to air their worries and hear the truth from actual Freemasons. Some of the moderators thought we should at least find a place for this topic until we have a better spot, so we’re starting it here.
We are not historians (although a few of us are trained that way), but if anyone has some specific questions they want to ask or theories they’ve heard that they would like debunked or verified, let’s use this thread to do it.
It would be great if we could keep this civil. Thanks.
I’ve posted a couple times before, I am very serious about becoming a freemason.
In telling this to family and friends, how did any of you respond if it turned out any of your aquaintances believed the conspiracy theories?
Have any of you actually lost friends or caused a lot of strife in your family over this decision? Was any strife permanent, or did it basically blow over after you started your involvement and they realized you hadn’t become some terrible pawn in a conspiracy?
I had a couple of friends who addressed the so called conspiracy theories although they were not protesting my membership. It didn’t bother me nor them. My family has been very supportive of my membership, so much so, that my step-father recently became a Master Mason.
It ultimately depends on you and what you feel is right in your heart. That is how I approached joining Freemasonry.
I have had a similar experience as Bro. Jacob. The people I mentioned it to were very supportive and said they saw it as a very charitable organization but didn’t know much more than that. That’s where I jump in and boast about it and clear up any misconceptions they may be thinking. I spend my time with good people who have good thoughts about thing such as this. On the other hand when some people hear me speak about Masonry, I’ve been asked “when do they let you know where the treasure is”? I usually tell them “we are polishing it now…shhh”! Also I get the occasional “why do we want to take over the world”. On that one I say “We have had 300 years to plan it. If that was our goal, don’t you think we would have done it by now”. Funny what people let run through their minds.
Though New England states differ in many respects from other geographic areas,
the thought of a subversive theme of freemasonry is not viable. First, in Massachusetts little is behind closed doors. The visage of tuxedoed citizens marching in parades is hardly a secret society tact. The knowledge of the Shriners Burns Hospital and the work of the fundraising by Masons to support that institution is clear. The Open Houses that are sponsored statewide is an open book. Many local charity events are personally supported by individual lodges. Here in eastern Mass. the TV ABC affiliate WCVB CH 5, evening program, Chonical HD, filmed and broadcast a segment: “Behind Closed Doors”. That broadcast displayed the inner look of the opening of a Regular Lodge Meeting ( un-tyled) and emphasised the diversity of membership and civic and charitable works. We lay cornerstone, we celebrate events publicly, we share history, and on and on.
Human Nature loves to embrace controversy, hence, if it isn’t Masonry at this time, it would be another organization. Expect the “illuminati” scenario to play out for a while. Meanwhile, the newest masonic candidates are knocking on the door and the door is opening! Slainte!
The way I replied to the “Conspiracy Theories” of friends was to simply tell them that I did not believe they were true. I told them that if I had any suspicions or anything after being initiated then I would re-evaluate my membership and progression in the craft.
As of right now I absolutely love being a freemason, scottish rite mason and a shriner. All of that was 3 years ago and now one of the very same men who questioned my desire to become a mason, will infact become a mason this coming January. It is always good to have the brothers you met after you were made a mason, however I am finding a great deal of joy about doing the apron presentation for a very dear friend of mine!
What I find is that several co-workers and friends are discussing the “Illuminati” and how they run the entire world and the Freemasons work for them as well as most government branches, couldn’t do anything but laugh, I tell them it’s non sense but most people are so gullible it’s a shame. Also, You tube isn’t helping much with the vast amount of “conspiracy videos” on their site, but what can you do.
I have had people make comments about Freemasons not knowing that I am going through the degree work to become a MM. I usually listen to what they have to say, it can be very entertaining. As far as youtube, well anyone can put together with the help of modern technology and post it. just because it is on the internet doesnt make it true. There are some people that truely believe that the Freemasons rule the world, and there is not anything anyone can say to change their minds. I am sure that there are some very powerful people in the world that are Freemasons but that doesnt mean they control everything. i recently read that the Freemasons were responsible for the earthquake in Haiti….come on…I dont see how anyone can say such nonsense with a straight face. (Disclaimer….this next part is a joke…to the conspiracy minded reading this ...OK)I as a FC have not received any superpowers to cause any natural disasters or have not been informed of any government take overs, all I would like to be able to have rule over is my house…I cant even get my kid to keep their room clean….LOL….
But seriously, there are people that will twist any story to fit any ideology or beliefs. If someone wanted to have a serious discussion regarding conspiracies, I would have them do some reading on the topic from both sides of the topic and talk with some well informed Brothers. All we can do is lay out the facts and let the person make up their mind from there.
I had a couple quick questions, has any masons on here read the book titled “Behold the pale horse by William Cooper” ?? And If so do you find the information in the book to be true ?? Just curious…Thanks!
Hey Dan thanks for that link!! I always wondered about that because that book seems to be very popular. Even a hip hop artist mentioned it before in an interview. For the record I don’t and hope i’m not coming off as a anti-mason cause thats not true at all as i’m really thinking of joining the masons but just trying to get lots of information and ask questions. I have one more question about i believe another anti-mason person. Have you ever heard of a guy named Craig G Lewis ? [Website deleted per Adminsistrator] He has spoken a lot about masonry and even the black greek letter fraternities….