If any Freemasons here are allowed to discuss this, could someone please explain why French Freemason Pierre LEnfant designed the street plan of Washington D.C. to include an upside down (i.e. “satanic”) pentagram pointing at the White House? I have seen a Freemason apologist in a documentary attempt to explain this before[1], but his explanation did not seem to adequately cover the occultic concept behind a “broken” pentagram. Thank you.
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If any Freemasons here are allowed to discuss this, could someone please explain why French Freemason Pierre LEnfant designed the street plan of Washington D.C. to include an upside down (i.e. “satanic”) pentagram pointing at the White House? I have seen a Freemason apologist in a documentary attempt to explain this before[1], but his explanation did not seem to adequately cover the occultic concept behind a “broken” pentagram. Thank you.
[1] “Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings - Volume 2”
It’s questions like these that make me wish I still had my copy of Solomon’s Builders. But alas, I lent it out.
From what I can recall Pierre Lenfant wasn’t the only who designed the streets of Washington D.C. In fact, if I remember correctly, his design was relatively overlooked.
As for the symbolism, people have found inverted pentagrams, squares and compasses, and many other Masonic related symbols. These are coincidences. I can say with certainty that I could find symbols in any cities street plan, but that doesn’t mean there’s a sinister meaning or motive. As someone once said, if you’re looking for something in nothing, you’re bound to find it. This is one of those cases.
Not to mention the fact that the founding fathers were big believers in and practitioners of astrology. The various landmarks were arranged according to the alignment of the stars/planets. Brent Morris is far from an apologist, he is a well known and well respected Masonic scholar.
Not to mention the fact that the founding fathers were big believers in and practitioners of astrology. The various landmarks were arranged according to the alignment of the stars/planets. Brent Morris is far from an apologist, he is a well known and well respected Masonic scholar.
Also it should be noted that while Pierre L’Enfant was initiated into the fraternity, he only took the first degree. I doubt he’d have found it necessary to put secret Masonic symbolism into the streets of Washington D.C.
@writersblock1307: re: “[This is a coincidence]. I can say with certainty that I could find symbols in any cities street plan..”
Considering how most street plans typically incorporate local topography &/or a grid pattern in their design, the precise angles on the D.C. pentagram keep me skeptical. If you say you can find this (specific) feature on any cities street plan, could you please oblidge me by citing an example? Thank you.
I may be hardpressed to find the pattern that many see as an inverted pentagram, but I doubt its impossible. Rather than poring over countless city streets until I find a comparison, I would like to say that for fun I did put in Yahoo Maps the street layout of Chicago. I was able to find (with a little imagination of course) a square and compass, a moon, and even what seemed to be a crude Abraham Lincoln (tophat and all).
I have to say again… I was looking for some interesting objects in the city framework. That doesn’t mean someone had intentionally put them there. And who would want to? Id rather make a street plan of convenience than have the added frustration of hiding symbols throughout.
@PDH825: re: “The various landmarks were arranged according to the alignment of the stars/planets.”
Would you happen by chance to have a citation I can use to apply this specifically to the D.C. pentagram? Thank you.
re: “Brent Morris is far from an apologist..”
a·pol·o·gist
Noun: A person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial.
Sorry, but it seemed to fit the definition well.
If you’re interested in debunking this popular myth, may I suggest reading Solomon’s Builders by Christopher Hodapp? It’s full of great information and you’ll find an entire section dedicated to this exact quandary.
It really is. He seems to have an amazing grasp not only on the truth behind all these wacky stories, but also seems to fully understand their genesis, which I find incredibly helpful.
re: “Links removed per policy as they have nothing to do with Freemasonry—Admin”
These links were cited for containing an interview with Freemason Brent Morris. This is even ironically confirmed on this very thread by present company, Bro. Paul, St George’s #6 F.&A.M., Schenectady NY, 32°AASR Valley of Schenectady, aka “PDH825”, and I quote: “Brent Morris.. is a well known and well respected Masonic scholar.”. With this being the case, I must naturally ask the administrator for a far more logical reason for their unfair removal. I will temporarily withhold my responses to the comments above until this matter is given a fair amount of time for reconsideration, as I will wish to alter my responses to factor in any further censorship. I will test for spambots by creatively reposting my links.
re: “Links removed per policy as they have nothing to do with Freemasonry—Admin”
These links were cited for containing an interview with Freemason Brent Morris. This is even ironically confirmed on this very thread by present company, Bro. Paul, St George’s #6 F.&A.M., Schenectady NY, 32°AASR Valley of Schenectady, aka “PDH825”, and I quote: “Brent Morris.. is a well known and well respected Masonic scholar.”. With this being the case, I must naturally ask the administrator for a far more logical reason for their unfair removal. I will temporarily withhold my responses to the comments above until this matter is given a fair amount of time for reconsideration, as I will wish to alter my responses to factor in any further censorship. I will test for spambots by creatively reposting my links.
You posted links which delude the facts. These videos are misleading, and as the goal here is to give straight and honest answers about the fraternity, the links were deleted. I’m certain my brothers will give a better answer than this one, but that’s the basic reasoning. It isn’t about censorship.
@writersblock1307: re: “You posted links which delude the facts.. (ect).”
However, even if that were true (I was prepared to debate the subject anyways), that is besides my point. The reason given by the administrator was, and I quote, “Links removed.. as they have *nothing to do with Freemasonry*” This does not seem to be the case, as they contain an interview with a presently acknowledged and even distinguished Freemason. Am I the only one seeing the irony here?
@writersblock1307: re: “You posted links which delude the facts.. (ect).”
However, even if that were true (I was prepared to debate the subject anyways), that is besides my point. The reason given by the administrator was, and I quote, “Links removed.. as they have *nothing to do with Freemasonry*” This does not seem to be the case, as they contain an interview with a presently acknowledged and even distinguished Freemason. Am I the only one seeing the irony here?
You are right to a degree, that Morris is in fact in the video. However, his presence in the video, despite his contributions, does not change the fact that the video is filled with misinformation. We strive to disprove the fallacies and myths surrounding Freemasonry, not add to them.
I understand where you’re coming from. However we aren’t deleting your questions, simply the links that have no basis in fact. Feel free to ask any questions you wish. We’ll answer them to the best of our abilities.
