Bob H said I must believe in a supreme being?

Though we ask in our “ads” if you have greatness in you, Freemasonry only asks that you are a good person and believe in a supreme being. Freemasonry’s goal is to make good men better.

I am more worried about out this administration stomping on our civil liberties then a god that I have never met and do not need to meet. i conduct my life with the utmost highest level of morals that makes a priest look like a sinner. I know that this group goes back to the time of my founding fathers and much earlier. My question to you guys is” Is there really greatness in you. Are you a bunch of due card carrying rich people that just brag about being in the free masons or do you care about this country?

We now live in a government were we have super delegates that one vote carries the power of 10,000 democratic votes. I say a vote is not a democratic vote if a vote doesn’t count but for just 1 vote.

watching these American people with this government is the equivalent of watching the tribal leaders kill innocent tribal people as the eclipse came and gave a speech to the tribal idiots just to gain power and control. we have special interest groups voting in idiot politicians and passing laws that benefit just the upper class while the lower class and middle class suffer.

So after my questions and beliefs should i even try to join or forget about it?

chad1776 - 18 March 2008 11:16 PM

Bob H said I must believe in a supreme being?

==> True. No atheist can be made a Mason. Men of many different faith backgrounds and religions meet in Masonry, as brothers and equals. Masonry does not teach that all religions are equal. Masonry is silent on this topic. Masonry does teach that all men are equal.  If a prospective member does not believe in God, then the prospect will be rejected.

Though we ask in our “ads” if you have greatness in you, Freemasonry only asks that you are a good person and believe in a supreme being. Freemasonry’s goal is to make good men better.

I am more worried about out this administration stomping on our civil liberties then a god that I have never met and do not need to meet. i conduct my life with the utmost highest level of morals that makes a priest look like a sinner. I know that this group goes back to the time of my founding fathers and much earlier. My question to you guys is” Is there really greatness in you. Are you a bunch of due card carrying rich people that just brag about being in the free masons or do you care about this country?

==> This is a difficult question to answer. First, there is no financial requirement to petition Freemasonry. The membership requirements are clearly stated on this board. Most Masons are ordinary men, working men, engineers, school teachers, law enforcement men. There are no educational or other arbritary qualifications. Each mason is required to pay an annual dues to his lodge, which are not exorbitant. In fact, Masonic lodge dues around the USA, have kept behind inflation. My lodge (in KY) charges only $60 per year, and this includes local dues, an assessment to the Grand lodge of Kentucky, and subscription to the state masonic newspaper.

Most masons do not talk about their membership. Membership in Freemasonry is not a secret. Masonry, as an institution, does not take any political positions. Each mason is enjoined to be a good citizen, and to support and uphold the constitution. Political discussions of any kind, are “taboo” in lodge meetings.


We now live in a government were we have super delegates that one vote carries the power of 10,000 democratic votes. I say a vote is not a democratic vote if a vote doesn’t count but for just 1 vote.

watching these American people with this government is the equivalent of watching the tribal leaders kill innocent tribal people as the eclipse came and gave a speech to the tribal idiots just to gain power and control. we have special interest groups voting in idiot politicians and passing laws that benefit just the upper class while the lower class and middle class suffer.

So after my questions and beliefs should i even try to join or forget about it?

==>Each man is entitled to his own political opinions, and Masonry stays clear of such discussions, and for good reason. Your decision to petition Masonry, must be your own. I encourage you to approach the subject with solemnity, and reflection. I encourage you to research the Craft, and to post any questions here, or ask a Mason directly. You may also choose to contact the lodge in your neighborhood, and voice your concerns.

If you feel that Masonry is an experience that is right for you, then I certainly encourage you to ask for a petition.

You certainly sound angry. I am sorry that I cannot talk about the politics of our country.  We Masons are a group of men who try to do our small part to make life better for everyone.  Masonic organizations in North America give over three million dollars to charitable activities every day.  That doesn’t sound like a bunch of self serving guys to me.  We also support each other’s efforts to help wherever we can in our communities.  We get together to support local walk-for-hunger, or Salvation Army, or Homeless Shelters, we participate in our churches and temples for our own private religious groups, we also help plan community improvement activities and even help each other when an emergency occurs.  No, we are not just dues card holding folks who brag about our membership.  We do think highly of our membership and of the many, many friends it has brought us.  We do take pride in our heritage and of our historical leaders, like Washington, Revere, Roosevelt, etc., etc..
Should you join?  Only you can decide.  Do we want you to join?  I can’t answer that either.  You may fill out an application at a nearby lodge and have an investigating committee look into your character and meet with you to speak of why you might want to join.  As a service organization, we do not debate politics or religion in lodge.  We do say the pledge of allegiance with pride and begin and end each meeting with a prayer.  We also promote life-long learning and striving to better ourselves.  If this is what you are looking for, you can find it within the Freemasons.  God-Speed
George Haile

My reply is that we leave politics at the door. And religion. Me thinks I said the same to a candidate when I gave the charge of the first degree.
There is no elitism. Just good fellowship and a lot of good friends.