Jay Z is a mason and he is the opposite of me… or should I say he is (mocking me)... and his new clothing line idea is proving his time is up… Brooklyn goes hard… Harlem goes harder…

P.S. this does not violate the agreement I checked off on… (G)anster For Life

Nice one! Where is your evidence?

Mike

:sick: Come on Mike… if you are a retainer of any knowledge, wisdom and understanding… you know “we” dont tell, and frankly I dont know anything… be patient as you were taught and wait for my album… unrespectfully titled “No Homo”... coming soon… I have a nice little track thats going have ya smellin sulfer…. “Welcome to Hell”

You have no idea how silly you sound.  Please stop speaking in riddles.  We don’t do it and would expect the same.  You can’t just pop into a website and make unsubstantiated claims.  We state that Jay Z is not a Mason because none of us have ever sat in lodge with him and have no evidence that he has ever claimed to be a Mason despite the symbolism Rocawear has used in the clothing line.

So instead of trying to sound like some kind of mystical poet throwing around lines about sulfer and hell fire, how about engaging in coversation like a fellow human being and stating exactly what it is that you want and why you feel that we are deceiving you?

We are here to answer questions, not to play games with you while we wait for your latest crazy mad jam to drop, dog.

Let me add that when I say you sound silly, it isn’t to mock or embarass you.  Rather it is to tell you that it sounds as if you are way off base from reality where Freemasonry is concerned.  I’ve got no way to prove this to you if you aren’t going to listen to what we tell you as the truth about our Fraternity.

So, for the many men who are Masons who read and participate in this site, posts like your have become….well….a bit of a joke, where we just slap our forehead and say to ourselves “oh great, another one.”

Now to you, this is all probably further evidence that we are just hiding the true evil of the world from you in some vast global conspiracy….but in reality, you’re just another confused individual who, in your own words from your own post, doesn’t know anything.  If you’re interested in asking real questions about Freemasony and listening to our answers, feel free to stick around and do so.  However, if you are here to extend some hip-hip rivalry between Brooklyn and Harlem, or are trying to promote another in the sea of weak rap albums that proclaim to drop profound knowledge, but which are in fact just the confused spewings from another confused and misguided kid from the hood, perhaps you should take it elsewhere.

We are real people with real families and real jobs, and are here to answer questions about Freemasonry because we LIKE Freemasonry.  I’m sitting here writing this next to my daughter who has a fever.  She’s tucked under my arm watching Yo Gabba Gabba.  I don’t have her on some alter while I wait to sacrifice her to Lucifer while Jay Z and I plot our global domination.  No doubt that is what you picture, but nothing could be further from the truth. 

So, do you want to ask a question, or are you here to promote an album?

Appears to be yet another “expert” who knows all there is about our Fraternity, yet has yet to even walk on the same side of the street as a Lodge building.  Who is this “we” that you claim don’t tell anything?  We actual Masons will tell you anything you want to know.  We aren’t simply “posers” so put your hat on straight, pull up your pants, and talk in complete, lucid, well thought out statements.  The vernacular you are using, does not really impress anyone, it merely makes you look foolish….

Why so defensive? I never said anything negative about Freemasonry… you give your own selves away, and not Freemasonry in general but individuals that hate “Me”... I have no problem with Freemasonry… individuals have a problem with “Me”, so I eat them… obviously you are the hand picked individuals that seek to cause war… I never said anything negative… check my Word… So if you or anyone else want to attack “Me” you may do so, but I warn you that you will give Freemasonry a “Bad” name… Trust me… I’ve been pass Master along time ago… This is dialog… constructive for the seeker of understanding, the one who finds this dialog it is for, neither for you guys or for me… because you know who you are, and I AM.

P.S. The hellfire blah, blah, blah is just a plug… the site said nothing against advertisement.

(G)angster For Life

Another thing… I said it before and I will say it again… I dont know Jack… this is just unoffensive and constructive dialog for the seeker of wisdom.

Hello sir

Sorry if you are getting the wrong impression.

But starting off by saying “u lie” is offensive.

Freemasons seek truth as it is one of the tenets of our fraternity.

This forum is here to answer your questions. If you have one please ask it or this thread will be closed.

Thanks,

Bob Heruska
Forum Administrator.

How can I become the forum Admin?

KingChrist(Lucifer) - 13 July 2011 08:47 AM

Why so defensive? I never said anything negative about Freemasonry… you give your own selves away, and not Freemasonry in general but individuals that hate “Me”... I have no problem with Freemasonry… individuals have a problem with “Me”, so I eat them… obviously you are the hand picked individuals that seek to cause war… I never said anything negative… check my Word… So if you or anyone else want to attack “Me” you may do so, but I warn you that you will give Freemasonry a “Bad” name… Trust me… I’ve been pass Master along time ago… This is dialog… constructive for the seeker of understanding, the one who finds this dialog it is for, neither for you guys or for me… because you know who you are, and I AM.

P.S. The hellfire blah, blah, blah is just a plug… the site said nothing against advertisement.

(G)angster For Life

You’re making a lot of assumptions here.  First, I’m not being defensive.  Frankly, I see many people join this site and make odd or confused claimes, so my response is not out of defensiveness, but rather, annoyance.  To you, this is a new experience, speaking to actual Freemasons in a position where you can learn.  To me, responding to people who make strange claims about JayZ and the hip-hop commnunity is old hat and frankly usually pans out to be a one way street of us wasting our time trying to tell them they are misunderstanding us.

I’m not trying to attack you at all.  Don’t misunderstand.  I just don’t really know yet what you are here for.

As for your use of the term “Pass Master”....first of all, you don’t even know what that means.  Second, you are obviously not.  You are not a Master Mason, and have never been a Master of a lodge, so it is impossible for you to be a Past Master, which I’m assuming is what you meant, but since a Past Master would never refer to himself as a “Pass Master”, I can deduce that you are in fact not one.

So…that said, you’re still speaking in riddles.  What on earth do you mean, you “eat them”.  Real people don’t talk that way.  You aren’t eating anyone.  Also, “constructive for the seeker of understanding, the one who finds this dialog it is for, neither for you guys or for me… because you know who you are, and I AM.”...that sentence makes no sense.  I just don’t get what you mean by it at all.  It’s like you’re trying to put together words that make no sense to try to sound intelligent.  That’s no fun, because I can’t see inside your head and know exactly what the heck you are talking about.  So…if you want to have a dialog, I’m open to it.  Just tell me what it is you want to know.  That I can help you with.  If you just want to pop in here and make statements, I don’t really know why you’d want to do that, and it isn’t really the proper venue.

Speak plainly sir.  We are here to answer questions about Freemasonry.  I’m not going to try to draw questions out of you.  You came to us.  What do you want to know.  I’ve got better things to do then try to decipher your meaning.  I’m sure you can understand that.  So, what’s on your mind.  What do you want to know about Freemasonry?

How do I become the forum Admin? :)

KingChrist(Lucifer) - 13 July 2011 09:15 AM

How do I become the forum Admin? :)

If you are interested in starting a serious dialog, this isn’t a good start, but I’m sure you know that.

KingChrist(Lucifer) - 13 July 2011 09:15 AM

How do I become the forum Admin? :)

You probably have to, at least, be a Freemason in good standing in a Lodge under the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts. The Forum is owned by that particular Grand Lodge.

As a further requirement (I’m only guessing here of course) you probably need a rounded knowledge of what Freemasonry is, so that you are able to spot the BS when it’s being shovelled.

I could be wrong though.

What kind of album hiphop or rock? Both genres have been borrowing masonic imagery recently

What if I AM pass that and just want to assist in dialog? What if someone wants to ask a Mason a question? How can I answer them If you guys keep attacking me and making me sound crazy and nonsensical? How do you even know who I am to just pop up like a “lynch mob”? Come on guys. I just want to ask and answer questions is all, but you have yet to tell me how I can become forum admin.

Its Hip-Hop with a flare of everything else. Sense you answered my question… reveal to me all that encompasses one who is in good standing minus paying dues, its a recession, and if money is the means to be in good standing then how is that fair? And if to be a Mason means access to good standing through money, how can I ever be in good standing if you guys dont buy my album?