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Posted: 24 March 2017 09:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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Dan-O - 24 March 2017 09:36 AM

I saw a question above about “Travelling Man”.  The original answer didn’t know that phrase, which I find surprising, so it must not be used as widely as I though.  It is a common phrase in my experience, where one Mason may refer to another.  It is a reference to a Masons endeavors in our ritual in Massachusetts.  Although no ritual contains the phrase “travelling man”, a knowledge of the ritual would make the meaning clear in my opinion.

I think that was me. Sorry, but it’s just not a term which I’ve heard used in that context. And, being modestly familiar with the ritual in my jurisdiction, I can see your meaning now, but it’s not in common usage here. But that’s one of the joys of the Craft, don’t you think? It’s like cuisine - lots of different ways to serve the same key ingredients.

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Posted: 24 March 2017 09:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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Dan-O - 24 March 2017 09:36 AM

I saw a question above about “Travelling Man”.  The original answer didn’t know that phrase, which I find surprising, so it must not be used as widely as I though.  It is a common phrase in my experience, where one Mason may refer to another.  It is a reference to a Masons endeavors in our ritual in Massachusetts.  Although no ritual contains the phrase “travelling man”, a knowledge of the ritual would make the meaning clear in my opinion.

I think that was me. Sorry, but it’s just not a term which I’ve heard used in that context. And, being modestly familiar with the ritual in my jurisdiction, I can see your meaning now, but it’s not in common usage here in that context. But that’s one of the joys of the Craft, don’t you think? It’s like cuisine - lots of different ways to serve the same key ingredients.

Absolutely!

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Posted: 24 March 2017 11:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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Dan-O - 24 March 2017 09:38 AM

I also agree with what some have said here.  I think it is time that you speak to a Mason in person.  Masonry isn’t something you really understand by reading a website.  It is a series of personal relationships.

I just contacted the nearest Lodge. I will continue to follow up on that.

As far for intentions or “trolling”: I’ve been a member of this forum for almost a year - that is a long time to troll, which I’m not. Also, my intentions are sincere and my post was a response from knowing a ‘false-Mason’ for over 5 years and Tip-Toe-ing around the curiosity.

The tipping-point for my inquiry came from the fact that he has been saying the upper age limit to join is 35 years old. And for those who followed that thread: I did confront him on that. He did not say his Lodge and told me he is not going to tell me anything anymore.

What I still find perplexing is the fact this ‘false-Mason’ is a shining example of great character, notwithstanding all the false Mason information he has given me.

His usual answer to questions like, “Why did you join the Masons?” - would be, “Now you are asking too many questions.” So . . . I hope you can see the frustration over the years. And as you may know, the internet is probably more dis-information than information.

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Posted: 24 March 2017 12:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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Dan-O - 24 March 2017 09:38 AM

I also agree with what some have said here.  I think it is time that you speak to a Mason in person.  Masonry isn’t something you really understand by reading a website.  It is a series of personal relationships.

I just contacted the nearest Lodge. I will continue to follow up on that.

As far for intentions or “trolling”: I’ve been a member of this forum for almost a year - that is a long time to troll, which I’m not. Also, my intentions are sincere and my post was a response from knowing a ‘false-Mason’ for over 5 years and Tip-Toe-ing around the curiosity.

The tipping-point for my inquiry came from the fact that he has been saying the upper age limit to join is 35 years old. And for those who followed that thread: I did confront him on that. He did not say his Lodge and told me he is not going to tell me anything anymore.

What I still find perplexing is the fact this ‘false-Mason’ is a shining example of great character, notwithstanding all the false Mason information he has given me.

Some people are more eager to toss around the “troll” label than I am.  :)

His behavior sounds very odd indeed.  It’s one thing to hide that you are a Mason, but quite different to say you are and then not tell what lodge.  That’s just fishy as all heck and I bet my opinion on that is not unique.

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Posted: 24 March 2017 12:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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Interesting.

He may be of stirling character, sir, but in this area, his behaviour and info are not what I would expect of a real Mason.

So you have done the smart thing, talk to real Masons. That’s a good start. What you decide about your friend is up to you.

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Posted: 24 March 2017 01:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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Dan-O - 24 March 2017 09:36 AM

I saw a question above about “Travelling Man”.  The original answer didn’t know that phrase, which I find surprising, so it must not be used as widely as I though.  It is a common phrase in my experience, where one Mason may refer to another.  It is a reference to a Masons endeavors in our ritual in Massachusetts.  Although no ritual contains the phrase “travelling man”, a knowledge of the ritual would make the meaning clear in my opinion.

FWIW, it’s not a phrase in common usage over here.

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Posted: 24 March 2017 03:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
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Lodge-vs-Temple

In South Carolina, most lodges are called lodges. From what I understand, the name Temple has fallen out of use because of the misunderstanding that it means we are worshiping some Masonic god. We use the word Lodge so people will understand that we are not a religion. We are a group of men who come together to support each other and our communities.

My lodge does not have Wi-Fi or a telephone connection, for that matter. It is an unnecessary expense that yields very few benefits. Especially since everyone has a cell phone these days.

The term Traveling Man comes from the idea that many of us travel to other lodges to visit. That is one of the benefits of being a Master Mason.

Tattoos are not forbidden to brothers. In fact, I have a large Square and Compass on my right forearm. If anything, it guides me to consider carefully what ink I get on my body. I do not want to get ink that will embarrass my family, God or my brothers.

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Posted: 24 March 2017 06:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
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bdgoen - 24 March 2017 03:01 PM

Tattoos are not forbidden to brothers. In fact, I have a large Square and Compass on my right forearm. If anything, it guides me to consider carefully what ink I get on my body.

Oh, this is great to know. For some reason I thought you were not allowed to “brand yourself.”

I once spoke to someone (not my friend) who claimed to be a Mason. He had the Pyramid tattoo on his arm and a large scar running through it. He claimed that he was not supposed to “brand himself,” and ‘they’ grabbed him and threatened to cut his arm off. Very unlikely story.

So, that’s part of where that particular question comes from.

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