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Posted: 27 February 2017 08:26 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Hey all,

I was initiated last Wednesday as an entered apprentice. Among the information provided to me to read through afterwards was information on a club in London for Masons under 35 years old and it recommended joining to meet more new masons. I had already come across this club in my research prior to initiation and was intending to join anyway. It’s called The Connaught Club.

On the site though, it mentions that club members are invited to join the club lodge. Now, I have only just joined my mother lodge, so is there any value from joining another lodge this early on? Or would it distract from my duties to my mother lodge?

I am pretty sure that I can join the club without joining the lodge, but need to confirm.

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Michael

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Posted: 27 February 2017 11:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Don’t worry about it at the moment as you cannot become a joining member of another lodge until you become a MM. Why? Because the secretary of whichever lodge you join is required to inspect your Grand Lodge Certificate - and you don’t get that until you become a Master Mason.

I don’t think the club is restricted to MMs (Mike Martin will know as I believe he is a member and will likely reply) and you are not required to join the lodge with which it is affiliated.

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Posted: 27 February 2017 12:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Hey Richard,

Thank you for your response. I didn’t know about the MM requirement to join another lodge. I have contacted the club through their website and they’ve responded, confirming there is no requirement to join the lodge to join the club.

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Michael

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Posted: 28 February 2017 07:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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To be fair though, there are ways for EA or FCs to become joining members, but they are the exception rather than the rule and not something you need to worry about. The methods are normally only used when moving Constitutions (for example) or when a lodge is closing and the remaining members are transferring to another lodge.

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Posted: 01 March 2017 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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My personal opinion is that why would you want dual or plural membership UNLESS you had interest in holding office in those lodges. If you join other lodges then you must also pay the additional dues. But if you are not interested in holding office then as a Master Mason you are usually allowed to visit any lodge you wish without being a member. And while you have no guarantee you can visit it is usually allowed.

Plus keep in mind that in most jurisdiction if you are a member in more than once place then your membership status affects your membership in all lodges. What do I mean? Well, let’s say one year your finances get to a point where you can only afford one lodge, and you go suspended for non-payment of dues. Well, you are now not in good standing in Lodge B, and by default you are now not in good standing in Lodge A either, and you would have to make good with both lodges to clear up your accounts.

So decide for yourself why you would consider joining a second lodge. If it is for fellowship and camaraderie only then I wouldn’t “join” but rather participate as a visitor. But if you are interested in participating as an officer then you would be required to join as a member.

Just my personal opinion.

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Posted: 01 March 2017 12:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Bro DHoward - 01 March 2017 09:35 AM

Plus keep in mind that in most jurisdiction if you are a member in more than once place then your membership status affects your membership in all lodges. What do I mean? Well, let’s say one year your finances get to a point where you can only afford one lodge, and you go suspended for non-payment of dues. Well, you are now not in good standing in Lodge B, and by default you are now not in good standing in Lodge A either, and you would have to make good with both lodges to clear up your accounts.

Not so under the English Constitution. Over here, you are only in deficit to Lodge B. Clearing those arrears is only required if you then join lodge C - and even then, strictly speaking, it’s not the individual who covers the arrears, it’s lodge C - who, by accepting him as a member, inherit the arrears. In practice of course, lodge C won’t accept the application without a clearance certificate from lodge B (and A). He can carry on as a fully subscribed member of A as long as he wishes, even though he owes arrears to B.

It’s also worth noting that he is NEVER in arrears to Grand Lodge because it’s the lodge that’s liable for dues per member; not the individual. The lodge has to pay regardless of whether or not they’ve been paid by the individual.

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Posted: 02 March 2017 01:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Bro DHoward - 01 March 2017 09:35 AM

Plus keep in mind that in most jurisdiction if you are a member in more than once place then your membership status affects your membership in all lodges. What do I mean? Well, let’s say one year your finances get to a point where you can only afford one lodge, and you go suspended for non-payment of dues. Well, you are now not in good standing in Lodge B, and by default you are now not in good standing in Lodge A either, and you would have to make good with both

Or he could just demit from that second lodge and avoid getting himself suspended.

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Posted: 02 March 2017 01:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Honestly, I think it’s really up to you.

Do you want to join that second lodge? Do you have the time to attend the meetings? You’re concerned about it distracting you from your current Masonic duties, but you know better than anyone what your duties are and how much time you need for them.

Every Mason has a different experience and approaches their involvement in the craft differently. I know guys who have been Masons for 50 years and never even visited a lodge other than their own. They get all they need out of Masonry from that one lodge, and that’s fine. I know guys who belong to a dozen lodges and attend every single meeting and are actively involved at all of them. I know guys who are only a member of one lodge and frequently visit other lodges but choose not to affiliate with those other lodges. Whatever you’re most comfortable with.

I’ll tell you how I ended up joining a second lodge: I was taking night classes for my MBA and for two years I couldn’t attend meetings at my mother lodge because I had class that night. I started visiting another lodge that met on a different night, and developed some really close friendships in that second lodge. Even though I knew I would eventually be able to go back to my mother lodge (and today I’m Senior Warden of my mother lodge), I’ve had so much fun at the other lodge that I knew I was going to keep attending meetings there, too. Since I knew I’d be coming every month, I decided I wanted to affiliate and become a member of that lodge. For one thing it’s the only way to get included in that lodge’s private events (the Christmas party, the summer clambake, etc), but even if that wasn’t the case to me it just felt like the right thing to do because if I’m attending meetings every month as if I’m a member I thought I should support the lodge with annual dues just like all members do. Every lodge has expenses, and the revenue to cover those expenses has to come from the members.

It was a personal decision, I could have continued attending as a visitor but personally I didn’t want to. Make whatever decision you feel is right for you.

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Posted: 03 March 2017 08:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Good day to all of you Brothers out there!!

I know I am a few days late to the party.. so forgive my late response.

As you originally posted, you have only just been initiated into Freemasonry.  Although it has already been stated, only you can judge the time, effort and commitment you need to put into your Entered Apprentice work.

That being said, take a step back and ask yourself why you are in such a rush to join a club when you have only just joined Freemasonry.  Generally speaking, the EA degree is usually the most challenging due to the unfamiliarity of the way things are done.  It will take some effort on your part, and it will only get much more enlightening if you allow yourself to focus on the task at hand.

As an EA, you have made a commitment to your mother lodge and your brothers.  I would recommend you focus on your degrees before looking into anything else, however, only you can judge your time, effort and commitment.

Welcome and good luck!

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Posted: 03 March 2017 01:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Ken, just so you know, the club Michael is talking about is specifically for light blue masons - ie, in EC terms, those who have just joined or have yet to be awarded Provincial/Metropolitan rank (dark blue). The club (and others like it in the Provinces) are intended to foster the fellowship between the members of the various lodges that meet in the location. The idea is to encourage visiting and the making of friends outside of your own lodge. Those who have reached dark blue have (generally speaking) already made those connections.

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Posted: 03 March 2017 03:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Richard George - 03 March 2017 01:37 PM

Ken, just so you know, the club Michael is talking about is specifically for light blue masons - ie, in EC terms, those who have just joined or have yet to be awarded Provincial/Metropolitan rank (dark blue). The club (and others like it in the Provinces) are intended to foster the fellowship between the members of the various lodges that meet in the location. The idea is to encourage visiting and the making of friends outside of your own lodge. Those who have reached dark blue have (generally speaking) already made those connections.

Ah, that does explain things a bit more.  Thank you for the enlightenment!

I am not aware of any such groups in my area.

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Posted: 13 March 2017 07:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Hi

Let me congratulate you on being initiated ;) I hope you will enjoy your Freemasonry as I do.

From this stage onwards, you have a lot of people to meet, many things to learn and slowly grow within your lodge.

Try to visit other lodges in your jurisdiction. Maybe to assist to an initiation as it will give you a different perspective.

However, I don’t recommend joining a second lodge at this early stage. You can spend a full year as Mason to see what is the typical involvement in terms of time, meetings, LOIs, rehearsals… etc. Then you can see if you would like to double this by getting involved into a second lodge.

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Posted: 17 March 2017 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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I joined a second lodge about six months after I was raised.

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