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what is the Knife and Fork Degree?
Posted: 27 January 2017 11:25 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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we have the pins in our lodge showcase, but what are they for?

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Posted: 27 January 2017 01:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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It is one of those “fun” degrees that a Lodge can use as a fund raiser.
Often done at a picnic or open dinner.

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Posted: 27 January 2017 02:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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I’m new to masonry, I’m assuming its been quite a while since they’ve done it, since nobody I talked to knew exactly what it was, other than its a degree. lol

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Posted: 27 January 2017 02:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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To be clear…..there IS not OFFICIAL “Knife and Fork Degree”.  The term itself is a tongue and cheek reference to those Masons who don’t know ritual, don’t really do much at lodge, but sure as heck show up for every lodge dinner.  In other words, the only tools of Masonry they use are the knife and fork.  You may have also heard the term “belly Mason”, although that one is more vague.

The Knife and fork Degree idea, as near as I can tell, comes from or at least can be summed up in the following poem:

The Knife and Fork Degree
by A. J. Disbrow

I don’t attend the meetings,
for I’ve not the time to spare.

But every time they have a feast,
you’ll surely find me there.

I cannot help with the degrees,
for I do not know the work.

But I can applaud the speaker,
and handle a knife and fork.

I’m so rusty in the ritual,
that it seems like Greek to me,

But practice has made me perfect,
in the Knife and Fork degree.

To be clear….it is NOT a good thing generally to be associated with this degree.  However, it does appear, based on pins and other things I’ve seen, that some lodges have taken this jab at poor Masons and turn it into a fun event that makes fun of such things, which is probably what your pin references.

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Posted: 27 January 2017 06:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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So basicly, if people see you wearing this pin, you might be labeled as a cardholder member.

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Posted: 27 January 2017 10:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Nah, as I said, it’s most likely some sort of tongue-in-cheek joke.

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Posted: 28 January 2017 07:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Over here, a knife and fork Mason generally refers to someone who joins, attends meetings and social events but is not interested in taking office.

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Posted: 28 January 2017 09:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I must agree with Bro. George. While K&F might be a term of derision in some places, it clearly is not in others. (Why would anyone would make or wear a pin announcing that they’re a slug?) Here, it’s not a term in common usage, but when used recognizes in an amused fashion that while some are primarily interested in Masonic symbolism, or ritual or philosophy, some are primarily interested in the social intercourse found in the company of fellow Masons. Ideally, every member would be strong in all aspects of the Craft, but it’s not an ideal world.

Personally, so long as a Mason pays his dues (and, of course, his bar tab) on time, then he is to that degree supporting the lodge and that’s fine.

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Posted: 28 January 2017 06:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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I tend to be a little kinder and describe them as “fellowship” Freemasons as that’s the part of Freemasonry that they enjoy and good luck to them.

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Posted: 29 January 2017 02:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Oh don’t get me wrong, I have no issue whatsoever with those who don’t want to take office! I know many who are not naturally gifted in the ritual side of things but are nevertheless exceptionally good masons and would bend over backwards to help. Conversely, I also know some who are gifted at ritual but who have completely missed the point. No, describing someone as a k&f Mason is not - nor should it be, a term of denigration but only a description of the aspect of Freemasonry they enjoy - the social side.

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Posted: 01 February 2017 11:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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It is certainly an amusing concept. My lodge tells me and others of the many goat-related jokes. I was also told that certain crowds absolutely hate the goat jokes. I think it’s light-hearted fun much like this comical degree. So, it just depends on the person’s sense of humor I suppose.

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Posted: 07 February 2017 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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In my lodge, if we have a scheduled degree and the candidate cancels, we still have the dinner since it was already planned. We just say we are holding the Fork, Spoon and Knife degree. That means we eat, then go home or some of us may stick around and have some impromptu Masonic Education.

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