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Posted: 20 January 2017 03:06 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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I will be getting my FC degree next week and I am wondering if I am able to attend an EA or FC degree outside of the state I call home. I live in MS but I work in AL most of the time, so naturally I am curious to know if it is possible for me to visit a lodge ceremony in AL if it is opened as EA or FC. Thanks for any and all helpful replies!

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Posted: 20 January 2017 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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In Massachusetts, the privilege of visitation is reserved to Master Masons. Within the Jurisdiction, an EA or FC may visit another lodge opened on their degree only when escorted by a brother Master Mason who was present when they received the degree.

Visiting outside your jurisdiction before becoming a Master Mason would be a question for the Worshipful Master of your lodge. I doubt it would be allowed.

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Posted: 20 January 2017 07:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Posted: 21 January 2017 01:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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While I am currently a Mason in Maryland I was initiated, passed, and raised in Alabama.  As an EA and FC I visited lodges throughout the state and as a MM I visited lodges in other states.  I will say the work in Alabama and Mississippi is different and this may (again may) cause problems for a young Mason.

In Alabama we can work on any degree at a normal meeting.  I know in Mississippi they only work in the MM degree except to do degree work (please let me know if this has changed).  With that being said it would be best for you to visit a lodge with a MM and then ask the WM of the lodge you are visiting if you can visit again alone.  Of course you should clear this with your Masonic mentor at a minimum.

In my mother lodge (Ware Lodge No. 435 in Dadeville, AL) we would have welcomed a visiting brother of any degree but other lodges may be more hesitant and this is their right. 

After looking at the location of your lodge I may know some of the brothers at the Alabama lodges you wish to visit.  If you want to PM me I would be willing to help as best I can.

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Posted: 22 January 2017 02:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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First off, where would you be visiting in Alabama. I am a MM in the Mobile, Alabama area.

I can also tell you that when I was an EA and FC, I worked for a company that had me traveling all over the state. So like you I wanted to be able to visit other lodges even though my mentor couldn’t be with me. So I asked around and I was told that if I could get a letter from my lodge secretary stating that I was indeed a mason and had obtained EA or FC (whatever the case may be) then I may be able to visit. It is no guarantee because it is still up to the WM of the lodge you wish to visit as to whether or not to accept you.

Then the next hurdle is to make sure you have learned your lesson/exam for the appropriate degree, because they still may want to test you as an EA or FC.

So my advice to you would be to check with the lodge you want to visit and ask the secretary about what you’d like to do. Ask him would he accept a letter from your secretary if it was embossed/stamped and confirming your status in your home lodge. If they say yes then you’ll have to time it when they have a lodge opened on your particular level/degree.

Our lodge would probably accept you, but I am not currently the WM or Secretary; so ultimately be their decision.

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Posted: 22 January 2017 02:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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goomba - 21 January 2017 01:16 AM

In my mother lodge (Ware Lodge No. 435 in Dadeville, AL) we would have welcomed a visiting brother of any degree…

Brother DeWayne, I can attest to that as I actually visited Dadeville Lodge on my own as an EA, but I did have that letter from my secretary.

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Posted: 22 January 2017 03:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Thanks to all for your help. I usually work in the Birmingham/Huntsville area, so a lodge in one of those cities would be where I’d attend. I might also add that I work with my mentor and he will likely be present if I did decide to visit a lodge.

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Posted: 23 January 2017 07:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Collin_Hill - 22 January 2017 03:21 PM

...I work with my mentor and he will likely be present if I did decide to visit a lodge.

Just keep in mind that you won’t be able to attend lodge if they aren’t meeting on the EA degree even if your mentor is with you. So before you waste your time I would definitely reach out to the secretary of that lodge to see if you can visit on a particular night.

As for Huntsville, there are several great lodges there to visit, but I would recommend Helion Lodge #1 (oldest lodge in the state) which is in downtown Huntsville or maybe Rising Sun Lodge #29 in Decatur just a few miles west of I-65.

I have not been to many lodges in the Birmingham area and the ones I have visited are in the outskirts and more rural parts (I like visiting the smaller rural lodges), but again there are many to choose from in Birmingham. One I could suggest would be Shades Valley Lodge #829 on the south side of Birmingham.

Good luck and have fun.

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Posted: 23 January 2017 11:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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The York Rite body I belonged to in Alabama is in Birmingham.  So the below linked lodges have brothers in them that I met through the YR.

http://alafreemasonry.org/bluelodges/lodges2.php?ID=932  ——this lodge meets in the YR temple.

http://www.alafreemasonry.org/bluelodges/lodges2.php?ID=519

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Bro DHoward - 22 January 2017 02:11 PM
goomba - 21 January 2017 01:16 AM

In my mother lodge (Ware Lodge No. 435 in Dadeville, AL) we would have welcomed a visiting brother of any degree…

Brother DeWayne, I can attest to that as I actually visited Dadeville Lodge on my own as an EA, but I did have that letter from my secretary.

I’m going to send you an email.

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