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Posted: 01 November 2016 02:41 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Good afternoon,

I inherited a ring from my grandfather, with a letter that I should pursue his steps. I don’t really understand that, but as I started looking for symbology on the ring, I ended up getting here.

While searching the web I learned about one of the symbols (Square and Compass, on the same place but on the other side of the ring), but I do not know what the second one is about and wasn´t able to find it on the internet.

Do any of you know this symbol? It looks like a Box and a Lamp post.

Thank you for your time.

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Posted: 01 November 2016 09:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Not to be fussy, but that’s a little hard to see. Any way you can zoom in a little?

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Posted: 02 November 2016 03:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Good morning,

Sure, I messed around with enhancements to get the details to be more visible, attaching the other side as well.

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Posted: 02 November 2016 05:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Cannot get anywhere near enough to see the details, try hosting it somewhere like http://photobucket.com/

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Posted: 02 November 2016 05:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/Fernando_Zaterka_Giroldo/library/

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Posted: 02 November 2016 06:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Thank you, much clearer.

Odd symbols. There are however so many branches of Freemasonry and some use their own symbols.

Perhaps you could tell us a bit about your grandfather. Where did he live, for instance? More info might help narrow the hunt.

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Posted: 02 November 2016 07:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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My grandfather was brought to brazil while still a baby by my grand grandmother, escaping the war on europe. Here he lived and graduated in civil engineer ( like I did as well, coincidentally on the same school), and became a well known engineer for his accomplishments. He had partners, all of them of jewish nature and his meetings were held at a synagogue here in Brazil. Maybe I should go there wearing the ring?

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Posted: 02 November 2016 09:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I don’t see anything overtly Masonic on the ring. The tools shown on one side certainly would be used by a Civil Engineer. Perhaps it relates to your professions.

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Posted: 02 November 2016 09:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Very interesting design. Now that I can see it properly, I’m not particularly convinced of any Masonic connection. What you have described as the Masonic Square and Compasses is in fact what looks like either an isosceles or right angle triangle with a pair of either compasses or possibly dividers. The Masonic Square is a very specific tool used for testing the edges of stones and that triangle could not do it.

The other emblem, I agree with you that it appears to be some kind of streetlight overhanging a box and I am unaware of any Masonic connotation to that.

Sorry I can’t help.

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Posted: 02 November 2016 09:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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I also agree, this doesn’t stand out as being a Masonic ring.  Further inspection of the emblem shows compasses and a triangle, which may have a right angle, but I’ve never seen that too used that way Masonically.  More than likely this is the ring belonging to a tradesman such as a stone mason or an electrical engineer or some other trade.

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Posted: 02 November 2016 10:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Thanks! I will keep looking for answers elsewhere!!

Best wishes

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Posted: 02 November 2016 10:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Hidden engineer - 02 November 2016 10:26 AM

Thanks! I will keep looking for answers elsewhere!!

Best wishes

Please do come back and let us know what you find out!!

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Posted: 02 November 2016 10:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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I would have to agree with the above comments, but must also note that this is a US website, with input from some other nations like Canada and the UK.

One of the nice things about Freeemasonry is that it tends to be a bit different wherever you go. Given that your grandfather lived in Brazil, it is just possible that those symbols have some Masonic significance in whatever state in Brazil he was a Mason. I can only suggest that you contact the grand lodge of that state (each state has its own) and see if they can shed some light on this.

In any case, it’s nice that you have a keepsake of your grandfather. I have one or two of those on my desk and treasure them deeply. Good luck in your researches. If you find out what the symbols represent, I’d like to hear, please.

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Posted: 02 November 2016 11:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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Just guessing here but was he a printer?

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Posted: 02 November 2016 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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W Br Gleason - 02 November 2016 11:56 AM

Just guessing here but was he a printer?

That “box”! I’ve been puzzling over that too.

Once enlarged you can see that it could be cylindrical and on an axel, I had wondered if it was a churn! In Europe during the 20th Century many trades based fraternities sprang up so I’ve been looking there.

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Posted: 02 November 2016 06:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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My gut says it is a Civil Engineering ring of some sort. The triangle and compasses relate to the drafting/design phase. The light/lamp would go along with this. However, I have no clue what that other “contraption” would be in relation to the lamp, unless it is some sort of measuring device or design tool itself.

Good luck, and come back and fill us in.

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