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Posted: 13 November 2013 10:52 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Good Morning,,, I am helping out a neighbor friend of my parents ( an elderly lady in her 80’s).  We came upon this pin, which appears to be rather old.  It either came from her husband or her father…. can you tell us if this is a Mason Pin ?

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Posted: 13 November 2013 11:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Posted: 13 November 2013 12:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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The pin has a sword and trowel crossed on what could be the VSL.

The two black portions of the pin look to be skulls with the leg bones underneath them (albeit disproportionate to each other)

The sword and trowel is part of the symbolism used for the cryptic rite.

Both of these symbols point to the york rite and cryptic rite.

Other than that evidence, it is my best guess.

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Posted: 13 November 2013 01:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Here is what I see on the pin:

a sword and a trowel crossed over a book

a Torch in the center with a red ruby as the flame.  There are rays of light all around the red ruby.

2 dark emeralds or sapphires which could signify stars… reason I say that is because I saw a pin almost exactly like this in sterling silver with a star on each side of the torch.  But that pin has a crown on top with the letter L on it.  That pin was also plain, no pearls or gems.  not sure if we are allowed to post links to sites, but just in case, here is a link to the site with the silver pin.  The imagery may be clearer than the picture I posted.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MYSTERY-PIN-Sterling-Silver-Vintage-fraternal-Member-Lion-Crest-Lapel-/310783930918?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item485c2a7226#ht_3795wt_1078

With the gems being stars instead of skulls with cross bones, would that change your opinion of what this might be?

I am providing a close up, and yet trying to stay in the 75KB limits

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Posted: 13 November 2013 03:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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If it is stars then I’d still say it is masonic.

The ebay link you provided shows the Letter L on a crown above. I believe that the Letter L on the auction piece is really a roman numeral (AKA a 50 year pin)

The one you have depicted may just be a lapel pin obviously without the 50 year accomplishment.

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Posted: 13 November 2013 05:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Thank you… do you still think it is the York or Cryptic Rite?

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Posted: 13 November 2013 08:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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It has masonic overtones but I dont know if it is a york rite pin. I am not a yr mason.

The only thing that is throwing me off is that the pillar looks like a hand held torch upon closer inspection. Until a yr mason chimes in or someone posts a link to a vintage masonic pin then im guessing based on the symbols shown on the object

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Posted: 14 November 2013 11:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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My guess is…probably not.  It’s probably a brother’s pin from some fraternal organization, but it certainly doesn’t stand out as specifically Masonic, something that I would expect when designing a Masonic pin.

Then again, there’s nothing on it that is clearly NOT Masonic.  Hmm.

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Posted: 14 November 2013 11:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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It’s a very common format for Greek Fraternity pins.

Here’s mine:
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/thelistingmonkey/k3398a.jpg

Here are some other examples:
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/fraternalism/images/greeks2.jpg

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Posted: 16 November 2013 05:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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I agree with Dan there is nothing on that pin which is uniquely Masonic and so while it may be a fraternal or privately made pin there is nothing to particularly make it Masonic.

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